I think, myself, that this is an example of scientific groupthink. When the Nazi's announced that cigarettes promoted lung cancer it took decades for the rest of the scientific community to get over the "You stupid Nazihead" thing and agree. And no, I'm not defending them, but science should be /science/. Politics interfered.
Global warming isn't about climate, its about reducing Western industrial output.
Do you realy think that China or India would sign on to any of this?
They aren't and they will not.
I admire the "get in front of the parade" approach here. "If we lead they will follow", but they aren't, and so we end up economically dead. Not an attractive choice, even if I like clean beaches and water and animals not covered in oil.
Instead of reducing our "carbon footprint" (note that my carbon footprint is smaller than yours because I have tiny house and no large animals and use all flourescent lights and keep the heat (shivers) on 65). I think we should be inventing new technologies. You CAN'T get back to the garden. Unless...you want to off 5.5 billion humans? No? Okay so lets go full bore renewable. We CAN do that now. Its not 1978. The current tech we have could make us all fat and happy in electricity with solar and wind right now. As for cars...hybrid electric until we get fusion.
Fusion?
If we could invent "Teh Bomb" we could invent "Teh Generator" and have a crash program, trillions if needed to get fusion online.
I like that one because it also means we'd never have to send soldiers to the middle east again. We could, with our reactors, go "THHHHPPPTT!" and concentrate on yelling at each other on what domestic program was better.
Conservatives: We need to rebuild the roads! Liberals: We need more pre-school funding!
Wouldn't it be nice?
Its all about finding a way to get over oil, without becoming a third world balkanized continent.
Or we could just go to war with China, blow up half the world and then the Germans...
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Date: 2007-02-04 07:02 pm (UTC)of scientific groupthink. When the Nazi's
announced that cigarettes promoted lung
cancer it took decades for the rest of the
scientific community to get over the "You
stupid Nazihead" thing and agree. And no,
I'm not defending them, but science should
be /science/. Politics interfered.
Global warming isn't about climate, its about
reducing Western industrial output.
Do you realy think that China or India
would sign on to any of this?
They aren't and they will not.
I admire the "get in front of the parade"
approach here. "If we lead they will follow",
but they aren't, and so we end up economically
dead. Not an attractive choice, even if I
like clean beaches and water and animals
not covered in oil.
Instead of reducing our "carbon footprint"
(note that my carbon footprint is smaller
than yours because I have tiny house and no
large animals and use all flourescent lights
and keep the heat (shivers) on 65). I think
we should be inventing new technologies. You
CAN'T get back to the garden. Unless...you
want to off 5.5 billion humans? No? Okay
so lets go full bore renewable. We CAN do
that now. Its not 1978. The current tech
we have could make us all fat and happy in
electricity with solar and wind right now.
As for cars...hybrid electric until we
get fusion.
Fusion?
If we could invent "Teh Bomb" we could
invent "Teh Generator" and have a crash
program, trillions if needed to get
fusion online.
I like that one because it also means we'd
never have to send soldiers to the middle
east again. We could, with our reactors,
go "THHHHPPPTT!" and concentrate on
yelling at each other on what domestic
program was better.
Conservatives: We need to rebuild the roads!
Liberals: We need more pre-school funding!
Wouldn't it be nice?
Its all about finding a way to get over oil,
without becoming a third world balkanized
continent.
Or we could just go to war with China, blow
up half the world and then the Germans...
Hey...how the hell...
c.c