Wall-E

Jul. 3rd, 2008 07:22 pm
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Since it's a long weekend and started for me at 12:30 today, and Gary was home on a Thursday, we planned to go into Crystal Lake to see Wall-E (Gary's choice) and have lunch. Got there and picked up tickets for 2:40 then walked across the street to Bennigan's where we often eat when going to that theatre. It was closed. Apparently rather abruptly but with no plans to reopen. Nowhere else within acceptable distance would have been suitable (I don't eat fast food, and the other "real" restaurants within a block or two are too slow for us to make the show time.) So we went back to the theatre and swapped the 2:40 tickets for 2:00.

We often go to a Thursday matinee in order to avoid crowds, but had forgotten that kids aren't in school now. It was full, and noisy. The sound for the film was at twice the volume level necessary even then, which is one of my big complaints about movie theatres now. If their patrons aren't as deaf as they think they are, soon they all will be. It was painful at times.

The film is cute, though I have to say I found the Pixar short cartoon that preceded it, about a stage magician and his rabbit, much funnier than the main feature. The thing that ultimately held my attention about Wall-E was not the superficial story, but the more subtle undercurrent of acid social commentary. I'm amazed that a certain ubiquitous big box retailer hasn't sued over it. The stupidity of the humans on the space ship reminded me of Douglas Adams' "B Ark" only updated for current American culture. The two guys riding down the corridor in their floating lounges, carrying on a conversation with each other not directly but by looking at monitors in front of them, was so typical: it speaks reams about cell phones and video[games.] The fact that all the people were bloated like overinflated pool toys, and had forgotten how to walk was just too accurate. The fact that they knew nothing about where food comes from, or had lived on the space ship all their lives but didn't know it had a swimming pool, were also entirely believable. The captain's repeated reference to planting seeds that would grow into... pizzas... was scary because it wasn't too far from the truth.

If you like cutesy robots, or Pixar animation, or superficial humor, you'll like the film. If you enjoy subtle and not-so-subtle barbs directed at American sacred cows, you'll almost certainly like it. On the whole, though, I wasn't impressed. I guess I might give it three apples for trying.

Checked Bennigan's web sites and the closing is so new that they still say the restaurant is open, give hours and even the menu. We had an early dinner at Chili's after the film instead. It was reasonably good food, but as usual, the music was too loud.

Date: 2008-07-04 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avon-deer.livejournal.com
Saw the preview for that on Wednesday. I was wondering if it was worth catching.

Date: 2008-07-04 08:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schnee.livejournal.com
What, you're telling me pizza trees do not grow from seeds? Well, what DO they grow from, then? ^_~

Date: 2008-07-04 09:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soanos.livejournal.com
That movie sounds certainly entertaining for an old, cynical zebra like me. I hope the message of the movie gets across to as many people as possible. :)

I can sometimes be subtle like a breeze block trough the window, too. :)

I am sorry to hear the movie theater and restaurant were too loud. I cannot stand loud noises either. And the kids make me want to... Um. I think I will shut up now. :)

Pizza trees... *snorts* Sheesh :D

Date: 2008-07-04 10:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenstallion.livejournal.com
Whinnyhi, Rider.

Sorry it was too loud. Bear and I watched Iron Man and he had to go back and get them to turn the volume UP - could barely hear it. Strange but true. We often have to ask them to focus as well. The 3-Rivers Cinemas are smallish but rarely crowded and usually there are no more than twenty to thirty people. We like that and the steep slope so even if somebody very tall is right in front of you there is no problem seeing the bottom of the screen.

Strange the preview and snackbar ads have not changed much in many years and they say the fire exits are in the front but that is wrong, they are to the middle sides. I kinda do miss the curtains being drawn to the side or sides days though. Dunno why, seemed to make the film more important or something.

We will go see Wall-E soon since we both like that kind of film and that kind of humor as a rule.

Impers

Date: 2008-07-04 12:19 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (altivo blink)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
Depends on what you like, I guess. Technically it's good, as Pixar usually is. Some of the story elements... well, I'm amazed they managed to sneak them past Disney because they are definitely not "flag, mom, and apple pie" material. It seemed shallow to me at times, but that could have been the audience environment as much as anything.

Date: 2008-07-04 12:20 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (running clyde)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
You plant pepperoni slices and wait a year.

Date: 2008-07-04 12:22 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
A lot of the jokes like the pizza trees and the fat people probably went right over the heads of the audience.

I don't know what it is about movie theaters. The last few years it seems like they are having decibel wars with each other, trying to make the sound so loud you can hear it on the street outside.

Date: 2008-07-04 12:27 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (nosy tess)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
What I really miss is the live organist playing music before the show starts. When we lived in the city, the Music Box Theatre in our neighborhood still had that. Wasn't a real pipe organ, but it was a big electronic imitation with lots of speakers and sounded pretty good.

Only three theatres in Chicago still have pipe organs, and one of them has been shut up and for sale for several years now.

Yea, I think you'll probably like Wall-E and at least I know you'll get the jokes, unlike the audience we were with. Watch for the short feature with the rabbit and the magician though. That one is a gem.

Wall-E

Date: 2008-07-04 12:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animist.livejournal.com
Sounds like a good movie to catch at the dollar matinee. Thanks for the tip!

Date: 2008-07-04 12:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] schnee.livejournal.com
Pepperoni or pepperoni? The latter actually might yield something (although it's unlikely to be pizza)... ^^

Re: Wall-E

Date: 2008-07-04 12:41 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
I will probably buy the DVD just for that short cartoon about the magician and rabbit, actually. That was worth the price of admission.

Date: 2008-07-04 01:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soanos.livejournal.com
I don't know. Maybe they are trying to make the audience "feel" the movie trough air pressure changes caused by loud noises or something. But for that, you do not need volume. You need enough speaker displacement to move that air. :P
Of course, I am not familiar with the workings of acoustic science, but that is how I would think it would work.

But I think the jokes in the movie may be worth checking out. ;)

Date: 2008-07-05 04:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] saythename.livejournal.com
We lost our Bennigans a few years ago, pity.

I liked this movie because it has a real "sims" video game feel to
it, but with characters you care for. I also noticed the social
commentary and liked it. The humans had been turned into, literally,
big babies with liquid food and unable to walk by a giant infrastructure
concerned only with its own perpetuation.

Hmm.

^_^

Date: 2008-07-05 07:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marzolan.livejournal.com
Awww... I saw Wall-E tonight and I loved it. I thought it made a wonderful commentary on rampant consumerism and environmental issues in addition to what you stated. I also enjoyed the numerous Mac references, but that's to be expected. It was a nice love story too, and you know I'm a romantic. I'm sorry you didn't find it more enjoyable...

Date: 2008-07-05 10:39 am (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
Yep, and there are multiple "giant infrastructures" that would be quite willing to do just that if it meant increased profitability.

Since I've never played videogames, I didn't make any connection there. The robots inspired no warmth in me, and the idea of a robot falling in love seemed over the edge to me. Especially so for a robot so limited as this one.

That left me with the social commentary, which is bitingly accurate but I'm afraid wasted on most of the audience.

Date: 2008-07-05 10:45 am (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
I just couldn't buy the idea of a robot falling in love, and especially so a robot of such limited functionality.

I give the animators a lot of credit for the way they managed to put anthropomorphic expressions and even emotion into the behavior and appearance of the robots, but it didn't break through my disbelief threshhold.

The social commentary was too pointed and accurate to be entertaining. It was like rubbing at a sore spot. ;p

Apple and videogame references went right by me, I'm afraid, since I have so little contact with either. The movie is good, I'm sure, but it just missed the target with me. I suppose the abuse of my hearing didn't help either.
From: (Anonymous)
Flying back from AnthroCon, I remember a magazine (inflight or at the airport) had an article about Wall-E.

The part I remember was the director trying to clear up misconceptions (and dodge flak) about the above "humans on the space ship". He said he did them as (almost literally) "Big Babies"; everything was done for them by robots, their lives were "one big vacation" from birth, why would anybody ever "grow up" (or want to)?

My generation (the Baby Boomers) is notorious for Perpetual Adolescents; Wall-E shows us Perpetual Infants.
From: (Anonymous)
Found the article online! It wasn't an inflight magazine or at the airport, it was something I read while at literary_equine's:

http://www.worldmag.com/articles/14127

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