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I think it means you get to make stuff up. But don't quote me.

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Hmm. You could be right. That is more or less what I have done. My spirituality is an eclectic mix of various Eastern religions and philosophies and a loose handful of Native American.

I'm not quite a Buddhist or a Theosophist for various reasons, certainly not a Hindu or Confucian, but I pick and choose elements of all, seasoned with a good dose of Taoism. One thing is certain, and that is in spite of my educational and historical background, I am not a Christian. :)

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Eclectic faiths often get a bad rap for being "unorthodox". I don't quite see what the big deal is. My take on spirituality is that if it ain't broke, there's no need to fix it.

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chibiabos.livejournal.com

That sounds a lot like my last boyfriend, Ebonlupus.

He also has some Wiccan and western astrology in the mix, though.

I, too, am obviously not Christian -- much to the disappointment of my mother. Anything I am not allowed to question, I have problems with. The 'good Christian' I tried to be for 12 years and gave up on, but still had clearly in mind nearly drove me to suicide as I became self-aware and conscientious about my homo- and zoo-sexual fantasies. Abandoning Christianity saved my life ...

Its right for some people, but not for me. I was in Advanced Placement (honors) English in highschool, and one assignment was to write a story similar to Benjamin Franklin's "The Gout" in which we anthropomorphize something that isn't even living. I chose to anthropomorphize death itself, and in my story revealed that the afterlife is how each individual imagines it ... we each, individually, create our own spiritual universe. "Pure atheists" simply cease to be as they so imagine it, Christians find a Christian hell or heaven waiting for them, those who believe in reincarnation will reincarnate and so on and so forth. The instructor, a very intelligent, sharp-witted black Southern woman gave me the only A++ she's ever given out. (OKay, it helps I was something of teacher's pet anyway ... ;p)

One of these days, if I ever get published, I should look her up. She's the only English instructor I had who wasn't beneath me in understanding of English. All my other English instructors, on at least a few occaisions I corrected their grammar. At least a couple were typical Yankee half-literate ..... I was reading at a college level already by the time I was in 4th grade. Yeah, there was a time when my mind actually worked ...

Anyway, I do somewhat believe in what I wrote in that paper.

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Well, the Christianity you were taught was far too narrow if it endangered your life in any way. There is a great deal more room within Christian faith than most of the American fundamentalist groups want to allow. The entire emphasis of Christian teaching is on NON-judgement and universal tolerance and love. The stuff we see so much of these days is an accretion of Old Testament judgement and Pauline narrow-minded fixation, and represents a terrible distortion of Jesus' own teachings. This is why I am not a Christian. The churches today have all gone far, far astray. And if their basic doctrine of the trinity is correct, it should be impossible for them to do so. That paradox rules them out as having any possibility of being "the one right answer" that they claim to be.

What you describe is rather like some flavor of universalism or transcendentalism. The intensely Christian writer C. S. Lewis gave a view of part of that in his little book The Great Divorce and if you haven't read it you still might actually enjoy it.

In any case, you seem to have a strong element of "Cultural Creative" too, just as your quiz results suggested.

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chibiabos.livejournal.com

I have not always done right, but I've always -- I feel, anyway -- had a strong drive to do right. All throughout being a teen, with Christian dogma very strongly imprinted on my psyche even though I'd supposedly given up on Christianity, I hated myself for my 'deviant thoughts' -- zoosexual and homosexual. I hated myself for being a sick person and I had more and more thoughts about suicide, or having myself castrated back then. Anytime I thought about it, I thought of myself as a terrible person just for having the thoughts, because of the anti-homosexuality and anti-bestiality dogma that I still carried with me from Baptist church.

I was helped to suddenly realize a few months shy of my 21st birthday, in 1997, that hey! Love, true love, is never wrong and the intense relationship I'd been in was not a bad thing. Society would never view it as anything but, of course ... but in my heart I was finally helped to relish the intense emotional and spiritual closeness I had with my canine friend-become-mate-over-5-years at the time. It was the only time in my life when I felt truly happy.

I think I am a creative person. I used to be a lot more logically- and technically-minded ... but my drop in IQ over the last 7 years has left that technical part of my brain confused and in the dark. My creative heart still beats, though, expressed through my literary expression.

I don't believe in a supreme entity ... and I don't know if that sufficiently fits the bill as 'atheist' since I don't believe in a God. There are phases I go through believing only in science, but there are also a lot of phases -- as I am currently -- when I believe there is a lot more to life than our best minds have yet uncovered.

And thanks for the suggestion .... I really do need to get myself a library card again and set myself on reading. I used to be addicted to reading as I am now addicted to computer games. Its probably a lot healthier ...

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I think

songdogmi is accurate. You get to just make up stuff or something. Can't see what's so especially modern and new about it, but hey, it does sound really cool.

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Yeah, why not. Maybe I'll nominate the two of you as high priests or something. *grin*

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Oo, cool. Do I get a tall pointy hat?

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I want a blue pointy hat... I just took the quiz myself to make sure I qualified. Wouldn't do if one of your high priests turned out to be an existentialist, now, would it?

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Sure, why not. I hereby designate

songdogmi as the Blue Dingus, entitled to all the panoply and authority attached thereto. And upon

zenicurean I confer the title of Red Whingus, likewise.

Now you realize that like the Archbishops of Canterbury and York, the two of you have to remain on rather prickly terms with each other because it might matter which of you has precedence over the other, while I carefully avoid settling the issue for you. :)

Furthermore,

bariki and I are now Joint Patriarchs of Cultural Creativity and while it's clear that we have precedence over both of you, we get to quarrel about which of us has precedence over the other.

This should keep us all much too busy for us to be developing any oppressive dogma or doctrine to bother ordinary people with, at least for the rest of our lifetimes.

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I guess I'll have to practice my prickliness, because I'm not very good at it. It's hard to pull off a decent prickly attitude underneath a spiffy blue pointy hat.

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No, it's really quite easy. First you need a set of cool sunglasses, preferably the mirror type. And the other useful tool is a staff or scepter. Badge of office and all that, donchaknow.

Croziers are too suggestive of that other religion thingummy, so I think we should use Fuller brushes. Each dignitary may choose his or her own particular brush. The toilet brush might be especially useful for fending someone off in an appropriately prickly manner, no?

(This is too much fun, I'm afraid I'd better quit now and go have a little lie-down.)

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lobowolf.livejournal.com

Well, that description fits me exactly, although I've always just regarded people with similar philosophies as "independent thinkers." "Cultural Creative" sounds like one of those modern buzzwords that are tossed around that sound cool, but nobody knows what they mean.

Kind of like "We need to cultivate a new user paradigm, and by thinking outside the box and employing dynamic resolution strategies, we can resolve many customer access issues while still ensuring corporate vitality." Heck, I just wrote that and I have no idea what it means.

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I've a feeling many of those buzzwords are coined by people who assume they invented independent thinking. As for Cultural Creativity, I'm thinking half a dozen of the same people congregated together, found out they have varigated (but interesting) views on the world but that they like each other nonetheless, and promptly formed a movement.

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Better check your paycheck. You may have just been promoted to executive vice president of a large company. :-)

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See above. We could create an opening for a Green Mingus if you don't mind the pointy hat and having to sit on a green cushion all the time.

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lobowolf.livejournal.com

Pointy hat.....sitting on my butt all day, making up sentences that don't make sense......I think that's my perfect job!!!

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Sent you an invitation to join us, but you don't really need it. If you like, just pop by and sign up from the info page.

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lobowolf.livejournal.com

Yep, I think it puts me there.

You scored as Cultural Creative. Cultural Creatives are probably the newest group to enter this realm. You are a modern thinker who tends to shy away from organized religion but still feels as if there is something greater than ourselves. You are very spiritual, even if you are not religious. Life has a meaning outside of the rational.

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Cultural Creative

100%

Existentialist

100%

Postmodernist

88%

Idealist

63%

Romanticist

56%

Modernist

44%

Fundamentalist

38%

Materialist

25%

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bariki.livejournal.com

I got the same thing. I choose to believe that this means I get to make stuff up.. yay! ^)^

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