Anti-politician rant

[altivo]

So after being caught in the act of utter hypocrisy, Mark Foley tries to blame it all on some priest who supposedly molested him as a child. Of course this turned him into some kind of predator himself. How stupid does he think we are that we would actually believe this tripe?

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[vimsig.livejournal.com]

Yes - I picked up on this story - the things one encounters when one is sans fer

[altivo.livejournal.com]

I've concluded that it is very true that power corrupts. That's why all politicians become corrupt if they stay in office more than a term or two. In this story, it's the sheer hypocrisy that offends me.

[bariki.livejournal.com]

From the man who calls young boys such things as "my favorite young stud", what more can you expect but this sort of crap?

[altivo.livejournal.com]

The next excuse, of course. He tried "I'm an alcoholic" and "I was abused by someone as a child." Now he will try "The kid approached me on his own first." That's the usual defense.

[darkhorseman.livejournal.com]

Im still wondering why its a big deal? Both sides have been banging pages, shagging interns, sending dirty messages and having affairs as long as there has been a government.

I see it as more election year shit stirring. He got busted he fessed up to it and resigned. If the personal parties involved are still offended then they need to take it up in court.

And ofcourse if you dont like who is in office fortunatly you can change it and elect a new person.

[bariki.livejournal.com]

The big deal, I suppose, is that the man was in charge of panel purported to protect children from abuse. :p

[darkhorseman.livejournal.com]

A politician lying and abusing his power. Pardon me if I am no longer shocked and have become numb to such news

[bariki.livejournal.com]

Mm, it's a shame, but it's unfortunately true. Honest politicians are hard to come by these days, which is probably why no one really believes what any of them say any more.

[altivo.livejournal.com]

I don't care who does whom as long as both parties are willing and not being subjected to coercion. But for a man who admits to being gay, and yet voting for all the anti-gay measures that come before congress, I just find the whole thing despicable. I don't care what party he belongs to, he stinks like what he is. Trying to blame it all on someone else is just reprehensible.

[songdogmi.livejournal.com]

I love the fact that Foley, like former NJ governor McGreevey before him, get caught doing wrong, and the first thing they say is "I'm Gay!" as if that's supposed to make us like them better. And then Foley goes on to say "And I'm a drunk! And I was molested!" All of which makes it ok to make cyber goo-goo eyes at every pretty boy in the page corps while ...

Gah. A hot button has been hit. Sorry.

And -- AND! -- the Republicans have tried to say that the reason it came out now is that it's a political thing by the Democrats. Well, don't you think that if that kind of weapon could be used against you at the worst possible moment, you'd defuse the threat a lot earlier? Like, say, three years ago when the Foley thing started coming to the surface?

[altivo.livejournal.com]

And then the wonderfully accurate and unbiased Fox News that continued to refer to Foley as a Democrat for days on end... As if it mattered. I'm convinced that US voters are total lemmings now. They vote (when they do) based on whatever superficial issue happens to float to the top of their little minds last right before they enter the polling booth, and simply don't want to be bothered with concepts like facts or thinking things through or long term implications and consequences.

Heinlein was right. Democracy is doomed to fail because it doesn't matter how many zeroes you add together, the result is still zero.

[atomicat.livejournal.com]

True enough. Vote me for world dictator! My rule will be benevolent.

As for stupidity... Um... he's a politician... he KNOWS most people are dumber than a sack of boiled hammers.

"You know how dumb the average guy is, right? Well, mathematically, by definition, half of them are even dumber than that."
- JR ‘Bob’ Dobbs

[altivo.livejournal.com]

Oh, and unfortunately, the jerk is not from my district or even my state. I didn't elect him and have no power to remove him. I'm glad he resigned, but that's a drop in the bucket. There are lots more knee-jerk party-line idiots where he came from. I don't live in Hastert's district either and didn't vote for him. I didn't vote for Bush or Cheney either. I'm disenfranchised here, so don't tell me to vote them out. I've done my part. My state has two senators from the other party. Both are pretty respectable. Of course the state house is full of crooks from that same party (Dems) but four years ago it had the same kind of crooks from the GOP. So we voted them out and got more of the same.

[darkhorseman.livejournal.com]

I learned just from the big time law office I worked for. You dont get very far in our legal system or politics unless you are corrupt, dishonest and lack morals. I dont care what party your with but expecially the major 2. The few dogooders there are left in the system are kept down or run out because they are too dangerous and too much of a liablity.

Hell look at it in my house when the presidential elections came around. I never registered to vote and never bothered since it really dosent make a difference "your going to vote" "Ok but I dont know who to vote for. There all about the same. Kerry strikes me as nothing better than a used car salesman and bush is fucking nuts" "vote how ever you like but if you vote anything but republican im throwing you out of the house" "GOD BLESS AMERICA"

[dakhun.livejournal.com]

Here's another story along the same lines. ;-)

Anti-Gay Rights GOP Sen. Larry Craig Has Sex With Men

[altivo.livejournal.com]

No surprise. At least the Democrats who've been outed haven't been supporting anti-gay legislation and other hypocritical measures.

[tanamin.livejournal.com]

The sad thing is that abuse like this, if you let it go untreated, can indeed set you up to become the abusor, which is why this behavior is so despicable and needs to be stamped out if we as a society had the testicle fortitude to do it. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

So does everyone who was molested become a predator? No, but it does change the way your brain processes sexual stimuli and formulates responses. So someone with a sense of sexuality that has been so skewed might not even realize what he's doing is wrong. That is when we, as a society, have to step in and show them that their behavior is wrong by publicly castrating them with a broken beer bottle.

Having said that, Mark Foley is still scum because he didn't bother to seek treatment before he began victimizing others when he was on the forefront of legislation protecting minors from just this kind of behavior!.

Where's my beer bottle?

[altivo.livejournal.com]

I'm not at all convinced on that theory. I don't believe you can "make" a homosexual or a child-molester by one experience or even a string of them. It comes from somewhere else. I also think that clergy are being targeted as a convenient scapegoat now and that a lot of the charges are trumped up or exaggerated. (Especially since the church started paying off the victims, which was going too far.) The fact that accusations were leveled against Chicago's Cardinal Bernardin shortly before his death is proof enough of that. I'm not Catholic, I'm not even Christian. But I recognized in Bernardin a truly saintly man who simply would never have done such a thing any more than the Dali Lama would have.

Foley is scum because he is a total hypocrite. That's all the evidence I need.

[lobowolf.livejournal.com]

Well, so far I've heard the "Don't blame me,I was abused by the priest" excuse and the "Don't blame me, I'm an alcoholic" excuse.

I'm not saying that neither of these conditions exist, but I see it as an obvious deflection of blame to save whatever credibility he (or his party...same thing) have left. It always sounds better if you blame a third party. You know..."The devil made me do it" or "The dog ate my homework."

Foley (or his party..same thing)won't take responsibility for his actions and seem to keep insisting that he was a victim of circumstance.

[altivo.livejournal.com]

Shhh. They haven't yet tried "The kid came onto me first" which is always the last resort defense.

I'd just write it off to Foley being a bad apple, except that the party tried so hard to cover for him, and he has been sponsoring and pushing hypocritical anti-gay legislation all along. That makes him a total jerk, in my opinion. A slimeball deserving of no sympathy, no mercy whatsoever.

[Sorry for the duplicate notification. I wasn't logged in for some reason.]

[cabcat.livejournal.com]

I wonder, like how ex-car thieves are the best people to talk to about car security. Perhaps ex-child molesters could give good ideas on how to protect children? Although most child molesters have a high risk of re-offending and as such I doubt there'd be many "ex" offenders.

[altivo.livejournal.com]

Frankly, I don't think efforts at "protection" are very effective. Frank talk with children about what they should avoid is the best thing, but most people object to that.

[pioneer11.livejournal.com]

And the wheel goes round.

The "therapy" culture comes to a, hopefully final, grinding halt.

[altivo.livejournal.com]

You're back? I thought you'd left us.

I doubt this will make any difference even to the election results in Foley's own district. All it does is give gay people another undeserved bad rap.