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*still trying to calm down* I even had a glass of wine to try to help, but it's not quite working.

This is the annual Autumn Drive, when our country road is thrown open with an invitation to city folks to come visit, enjoy the autumn colors, shop for arts, crafts, and antiques, and partake of entertainment and food. It seemed like a good idea the first couple of years we were here, but now I've come to really hate it and can't wait until it's over.

The stretch of road is about three miles, and there are fifteen or so official stopping places, mostly farms with large barns or other suitable roofed venues for booths and stages. The music is always genteel, never rock bands or anything like that. The food is simple (county health regulations have been tightened to where it's hard to offer much of anything, actually) and the goods for sale range from cheap schlock to genuine antiques.

If the weather is at all good, we get literally thousands of urban and suburbanites invading us for three days, blocking our driveways, parking on our lawns and throwing trash on them, and generally acting self-important and rude. The lady across the road from us has about 80 acres, loves children, and always does a big deal in her barn with food and drink and live entertainment. For several years she has invited my mate Gary to come over and play as one of her musicians, and he has been happy to do so. I've avoided the scene now for the last four years, but today I thought I'd go over and listen. He was going to play for an hour with three of his friends, and I wanted to hear the ensemble. They do quiet, traditional music with a few modern songs thrown in, all acoustic, and a casual setting in a barn loft suits them just fine.

So I got there ten minutes before they were on, found a seat by an empty table and waited. A group of about six people showed up and asked if they could share the table and I said "Sure." They were quite loud, and I learned a lot about them from the conversation before the music started. Obviously from Barrington or Algonquin, wealthy suburbs much closer to Chicago, they were full of attitude and full of themselves.

When the music started, they were quiet through most of the first song, and I though that would be it. But then they started up again, right over the top of the musicians, loud, raucous and rude. Even insulting the music and the performers. I sat quietly but couldn't keep my anger from building. Finally, between about the fourth and fifth selection, I stood up to move to another location. One of the women stood up right in front of me, ignoring me, and blocked my path. I lost it. I pinched her sleeve to get her attention, gestured to her group, and said "You are the rudest, loudest, most obnoxious people I've ever had to suffer being around. If you can't be polite to the performers, why don't you leave?" Of course, she yelled at me to let go of her and how dare I touch her...

I moved to the other side of the room and found another seat, only to be followed by her husband who wanted to be belligerent and pick a fight with me. He demanded that I apologize to her, and I refused. He threatened to call the police and I said "I haven't done anything wrong, I didn't harm her or threaten her." Then I went on listening to the performers. The two loud women came up and said something about "Finding the owner to complain" and off they went. A few minutes later, Gene, who manages the venue for Trudy, came and sat next to me. He asked what happened, I told him. He said the guy was really angry and was threatening to call the police. Would I apologize to the wife? I told him I had nothing to apologize for. He said he knew that, but in the interest of keeping the peace would I do it? I offered to just leave, and he said no, he didn't want me to have to do that. Then I said "If they will apologize to the musicians, I'll apologize to them. All these people here saw what happened, I did nothing threatening or harmful." He said OK, he understood, and left.

It ruined the rest of the hour for me, though no one showed up to arrest me and the irate husband never came back. I don't know whether Gene managed to calm him down or the group just got too impatient to wait. After the performance ended, we went out the back door and went home. I guess I'll not go back over there tomorrow or next year.

It is disgusting how people can come into a place where they don't live, where they have been invited as guests, and then act as if they totally own it and everyone else is their inferior. Threatening to bring in lawyers and sue me, threatening to have me arrested, acting as if it is their inborn right because they are wealthy to do whatever they please and it is our duty as "rural hicks" to wait on their every whim. I say to hell with them. They thought they were in some kind of business establishment that had to cater to them as "paying customers" because they bought a cup of hot chocolate. Well they were wrong.

Date: 2006-10-21 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atomicat.livejournal.com
Yah, if the music was so bad why didn't they just leave? There's a truely scary percentage of mentally ill people in the world and I'd count them as such. Scary to think that there's people who have to put up with this asshole's shit every day, can you imagine? Man that gets me irate! To think that you'd almost wanna have a strong-arm bouncer around just in case, in your OWN place which you're throwing open for hospitality's sake.

Date: 2006-10-21 09:07 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
Yeah, the first year we thought maybe we'd start hosting some stuff here, but I quickly nixed the idea after seeing what the crowds are really like.

We did host one musical event that first summer, for Gary's friends from the city. They were advised in the invitation that this was a working farm, and that there were places and things here that would be dangerous for unattended children and pets, etc. Well, several of them showed up with their kids and turned them loose to run. "Oh, it's the country, it's good for them." Right. Barbed wire, electric fences, skunks, bulls, beehives, and all. It's the country all right.

Well, we survived that without any disasters but by the end of the day I was ready for a nervous breakdown. We decided never again to do anything "open house" style where people who just didn't have a clue would be invited onto our property. Still need to put up the "No trespassing" signs though...

Date: 2006-10-21 10:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atomicat.livejournal.com
Reminds me of me wandering around nievely in bad urban environments. On the other hand I'm perfectly at home with skunks, bees (particularly!), bulls & bears. "You really don't wanna step into that bar" is about equal to "Um, really, don't poke that with a stick."

Date: 2006-10-21 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lobowolf.livejournal.com
You had every right to say what you said. These people were clearly assholes. If you don't like something, then just leave. There's no excuse to sit around and talk rudely and ruin the performance for everyone else. If anything, they should have been kicked out for their rude behavior. We get people like that too, especially during "leaf season." People drive up from Mass, CT, or NY and think they're so much better than all of us that live "up in the sticks."

People like that can just f**k off, IMHO. It's sad that there are people who have such poor manners and bad attitudes :(

Date: 2006-10-21 09:03 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (plushie)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
It's sad that there are people who have such poor manners and bad attitudes

And vote Republican. I guarantee it. ;p

Date: 2006-10-21 09:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vimsig.livejournal.com
dear 'tivo - I can list 1001 times that that has happened to me and mine and my compatriots.

bless ya for not giving in to the 4sure republicans
people

Date: 2006-10-21 09:20 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
Thanks for the supportive words. Hopefully they won't persist long enough to find out who I am, where I live, and file charges against me for "assault" which is what the guy was threatening.

Date: 2006-10-21 10:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marzolan.livejournal.com
*snorts* You did a lot better than I would have... My temper would never have held out as long as yours did, and when it did break it would have been rather loud in there for a bit...

Date: 2006-10-21 10:30 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
Well, in retrospect, I should have handled it better. I waited too long, and was too angry when I reacted. I have a history of doing things like turning around at a concert and smacking some chatty person across the face with a program, telling them to SHUT UP.

Truly, I have a lot of trouble understanding why people go to something that is obviously a musical performance venue and then treat it as if they were in a bar with the jukebox running.

Hopefully I've heard the end of it and nothing more will come of the situation.

Date: 2006-10-21 10:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] marzolan.livejournal.com
Well, if someone does follow it, which i doubt, hot air and all that, you've got plenty of character witnesses not to mention witnesses to the actual event.

Date: 2006-10-21 10:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] atomicat.livejournal.com
I'm sure you have. The idea of this dirtbag "doing" something is rather amusing. Even more amusing is the idea of refining his definition "assault" via my steel-toed biker boots. Hey buddy! Want a rural experience? How about a northern Canadian mining town experience? Back-alley style.

Date: 2006-10-21 10:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pioneer11.livejournal.com
"It is disgusting how people can come into a place where they don't live, where they have been invited as guests, and then act as if they totally own it and everyone else is their inferior"

The very definition of Yuppie.

Did the guy have a cellphone on one hip and a beeper on
the other like post-modern six guns?

Feh, I'm not country, I'm blue collar but I've had similiar
experiences.

Another reason to stay in Der Foxenbunker.


Date: 2006-10-21 10:35 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
Yep, you've got it. The whole world is just hired help to these people.

He did have his cell phone on his hip and drew it as fast as Wyatt Earp's six gun to threaten me with the police for "molesting" his wife. I think he was stuck there because it wasn't a 911 situation and his pre-programmed number for the police was for a municipality 40 miles from here. In fact, we have no police. He'd have had to call the county sheriff's office. One of the women was urging him to take my picture with it. Their sheer arrogance and lack of any consideration for others was really shocking, even for yuppie types.

Date: 2006-10-21 10:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenstallion.livejournal.com
Come to me, Rider.

Date: 2006-10-21 10:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] goldenstallion.livejournal.com
You know me, Rider. I am even less confrontational than you are in spite of my father loving dad.

So come with me and find solace in our natural world.

Please fly me.

Imperator.

Date: 2006-10-21 10:44 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
Heh. You see why I shouldn't carry weapons. There is a flash point still.

This now reminds me of the time a jerk in a Lexus nearly ran over me in a pedestrian crosswalk. He was busy talking on his cell phone at the time, of course. I kicked his fender so hard it scratched his paint job and left a dent. He drove down the block after me yelling, half-parked the car and got out to threaten me. I told him to get off the phone and pay attention to his driving and kept walking. Of course I could have been killed that time, or badly hurt. I haven't tried that trick again.

Date: 2006-10-22 01:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mymaimary.livejournal.com
Good on you telling them you couldn't hear over them and that they were being rude to the entertainers. The homes and hearts of people in your area opened for them.

Date: 2006-10-22 11:59 am (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
Unfortunately, it achieves little. Such people are impervious to even the strongest hints about their behavior. They are already convinced that they are right and the rest of the world is wrong.

Nuzzes and hugs ya

Date: 2006-10-22 03:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bladehorse.livejournal.com
Sounds like they need a lesson in Railroad courtacy. Most likely involving a brake stick acrossed the mellon. Humans in general, just really suck. Im sorry that you couldnt have at least one hour to enjoy some good music and relaxasion. We had an instance at work where a kid had his 'seat taken' by another guest. It started with asking, then yelling, then shoving, Then All the employees abandoned their posts, and grabbed brake sticks on the way to make them change their minds of fighting.They settled down after the 5 holding sticks, and threatning sherrif ride after the pummeling they were gonna get. The whole train applauded and broke into a yelling cheer!

Re: Nuzzes and hugs ya

Date: 2006-10-22 12:00 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (altivo blink)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
I'd have felt better about it if anyone else had been supportive enough to say something. I got lots of nods, smiles, and winks from other people, but no one had the guts to stand up to these idiots other than myself.

Date: 2006-10-22 06:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cabcat.livejournal.com
I would've handled it differently, I'd have gone to find their cars then let their tyres down *mwahahaha* Or paid one of the out of state kiddies to do that.

Reminds me of some mother at the local library, complaining about the fines she racked up, she said "In NSW they don't charge such high fines" this was after about 10minutes of ranting while there were people waiting so I said "Perhaps you should go back down there, now just pay the fine and leave like everyone else" She turned to me but was rather suprised to see 10 other people in the line all glaring at her so she thought it was best to pay and leave, hee hee.

Date: 2006-10-22 12:01 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
No chance of identifying their vehicle in the hundreds that were clogging the road and lanes.

Date: 2006-10-22 06:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] calydor.livejournal.com
What surprises me is that you didn't casually say, "You know, one of those performers who you're giving such a hard time is actually my mate through (how much is it? 25 years or so?)." See, either they'd get up and leave through homophobia, or it'd make them pipe down a bit.

Date: 2006-10-22 06:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cabcat.livejournal.com
Well often tis too late one thinks of what one should've said,

To quote from from Blackadder, "Sir Thomas Moore, burned alive for refusing to recant his Catholicism, must have been kicking himself as the flames grew higher that it never occured to him to say... I recant my Catholicism"

I wouldn't worry though Tivo, Karma gets back at those people, they'll probably be violently mugged at home and have to rely on charity for the rest of their lives.

Date: 2006-10-22 12:03 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (altivo blink)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
Only 24 and a half years at the moment. That wouldn't have helped though. It would have been fuel to the fire and likely made them louder and more abusive.

Date: 2006-10-22 10:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soanos.livejournal.com
Aww... Sorry to hear that. I just hope you have managed to cool down.
It just is that where ever you go, rude people are there :/

I have also experienced similar experiences, but I haven't done anything
about them because of my weak build and low confidence. But I tell you
that, I think those people are getting what they deserve in time.
No point letting them ruin your day. Karma actually works. ;)

*hugs the hossie and offers a cup of hot chocolate*

Date: 2006-10-22 12:05 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
Thanks. At this point I'm only upset that it really achieved nothing. Such people are so insensitive that they'll never get the message.

Date: 2006-10-22 03:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfgrowl.livejournal.com
Aww. Poor horsie. Sorry some cretins had to ruin your evening.

Date: 2006-10-22 10:42 pm (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (Default)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
As long as nothing more comes out of it, I won't feel too bad about it. I don't imagine they got the message, but at least I got to deliver it to them.

Date: 2006-10-24 03:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] woodychitwn.livejournal.com
WOW... *HUGZ*

Date: 2006-10-24 10:05 am (UTC)
ext_39907: The Clydesdale Librarian (fursuit)
From: [identity profile] altivo.livejournal.com
Mmm, thanks. I'll take hugs any time. :)

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