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It takes 30 minutes or so for NOAA to post the results of the latest polar orbital observation of auroral activity. In that time, the value may rise or drop by as much as two activity points. And a half hour ago they posted a value of 9. Somewhere between 9 and 10 is when aurora activity usually becomes visible at my location.

It was pretty cloudy at sunset but the forecast calls for "mostly clear" tonight. So do I walk out to the pasture, braving the mosquitoes, to see if I can spot the aurora? I dunno. I'm sorta waiting for them to post another reading to see if it is holding steady or moving up or down.

In any case, for those of you in North America and at latitudes above 40N or so, there's a good chance of visible aurora around your local midnight time, plus or minus an hour or so. If you've never seen it, I assure you it's well worth seeing.

Those of you who reside above 50N and see it more often are allowed to yawn, but I'll still point out that although I've seen hundreds of gorgeous sunrises and sunsets in my life, I still don't miss an opportunity to see another. Aurora is much rarer. I've seen it perhaps a handful of times in my life, and I don't want to miss an opportunity.

In other news, a federal court judge who was appointed by Ronald Reagan (and we know Reagan didn't favor liberals) ruled today that California's Prop 8 is unconstitutional. Apparently though, he stayed his own judgement from being carried out pending the inevitable appeal. Thus he has fixed nothing, but affirmed my belief that even a so-called "conservative" can't easily argue a way around this. Either the Constitution affirms equal treatment for everyone, or it does not.

Some voices on the extreme right are already mustering to repeal the 14th amendment. I can't believe the selfish gall of such people, I really can't.

Also, the great "I'm in favor of change" Obama has reaffirmed, though a spokesperson, the statement that he opposes gay marriage but favors civil unions. What? Here's a supposed black man saying he supports "separate but equal" treatment. I swear, we have no history at all in this country. Anything earlier than living memory didn't ever happen.

Date: 2010-08-05 07:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avon-deer.livejournal.com
I live at 53N, but I sadly missed this light show due to high cloud levels. :(

How easy is to repeal something in a constitution? i can't imagine it being that easy. Which I imagine is why administrations who don't like certain parts of consitutions do not vote to repeal them; they merely instruct the law men to disregard them. Or at least that was what I was told was going on with the wire tapping stuff that was going on not so long ago.

Date: 2010-08-05 10:23 am (UTC)
schnee: (Default)
From: [personal profile] schnee
That's what I'm wondering about, too.

We were actually taught in school that one of the differences between the German and US constitutions is that the former can be changed by parliament (with a two thirds supermajority in both houses), while the latter is pretty much sacrosanct and can only be amended. In practice, this is really only technically true, since as we've seen, it IS possible to repeal one amendment using a later amendment, but so far, nobody I've asked has been able to to explain satisfactorily just what can or can't be repealed this way (to be fair, though, I haven't asked many people).

In particular, one thing I'm often wondering about is the bill of rights. Suppose that, somehow, you actually managed to get enough states behind a new amendment that'd repeal the first. Would it actually be possible to enact such an amendment, then, or are there limits on what kinds of amendments can be enacted? (The whole brouhaha about outlawing flag-burning by means of an amendment since right now it's protected by the first seems to suggest that it would be possible to enact something like this.)

Suppose, then, that such an amendment were enacted. What would this mean for freedom of speech, legally speaking? It's often said that the US constitution doesn't grant rights, it merely recognizes their (independent) existence, so one might actually argue that the right to free speech still exists, despite it not being recognized by the constitution anymore. Such an argument would be unlikely to stand up in court in Germany (I think), but I'm not so sure about common law jurisdictions.

Finally, generally speaking, what happens when parts of the constitution (including its amendments) contradict each other, anyway? Does the later clause always take precedence? What about cases that are not obvious in the way that the 21st was when it explicitely repealed the 18th? I'm really wondering about cases where one amendment says A and another says B, without either addressing the discrepance — especially if it's subtle corner cases that aren't found until quite some time after the relevant sections became law. How do you determine which part of the constitution takes precedence here? Is it possible at all to make a decision without enacting another new amendment to clarify exactly that situation (as was done with the 25th)?

Inquiring minds want to know. :) (And you seem like someone who could actually answer these questions.)

Date: 2010-08-05 05:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] schnee
OK, thanks. :)

Date: 2010-08-05 11:38 am (UTC)
hrrunka: The moon rising over the Hardy Inlet at Augusta on New Year's Eve (moonrise)
From: [personal profile] hrrunka
The important latitude for auroral displays is the geomagnetic one, notthe geographic one, and the north geomagnetic pole being where it is, Old London is geomagnetically further south than Chicago, so we get fewer auroral displays over here than they do over in North America. Somehow the news frenzy about the Sun's recent minor burp has ignored this...

Date: 2010-08-05 11:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avon-deer.livejournal.com
How amazingly annoying. :/

Date: 2010-08-05 11:58 am (UTC)
hrrunka: Stylised representation of Crux Australis (crux)
From: [personal profile] hrrunka
NOAA has a page showing the current Norh and South Auroral ovals. There are other similar displays elsewhere, like this one from FHRadio.org.

Date: 2010-08-05 12:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avon-deer.livejournal.com
I am not really scared by it...just fascinated.

I am surprised you have a problem with light pollution. I only have to go onto the Dales, and it's not much of a problem for me.

Date: 2010-08-05 11:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avon-deer.livejournal.com
That's quite a system.

Date: 2010-08-05 11:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] avon-deer.livejournal.com
The British "constitution" is unwritten, which makes ammending it very easy indeed. This is a good thing because it means changes can be made quickly, and a bad thing because it means changes can be made quickly.

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