The new Dark Ages are dawning
Sep. 4th, 2009 02:13 pmThere was a time when books were the exclusive province of the wealthy and the cleric. Neither literacy nor access to the printed word were available to any other socioeconomic class.
Now school administrators in America are deliberately working to recreate that situation.
Exclusive Boston school dumps library completely
No, you idiots, it isn't "all on the internet" yet. Maybe in another century or so it will be, but I doubt it. Buying a few Kindles and circulating them among your students is not a replacement for a library. The number of important works still relevant to education that are not yet available on the Kindle or the internet is still larger than the number that can be found there. A $50,000 coffee shop with an $11,000 espresso maker is never going to serve as a replacement for a real library with a real librarian or two.
It's very obvious that these so-called educators have narrowed down the definition of education to include only "job readiness" and "hireability" and have completely forgotten the importance of breadth, exposure, and serendipity in exposure to literature, history, and, most importantly, VALUES. That last is exactly what these guys lack. I would not send my children to such a school.
Now school administrators in America are deliberately working to recreate that situation.
Exclusive Boston school dumps library completely
No, you idiots, it isn't "all on the internet" yet. Maybe in another century or so it will be, but I doubt it. Buying a few Kindles and circulating them among your students is not a replacement for a library. The number of important works still relevant to education that are not yet available on the Kindle or the internet is still larger than the number that can be found there. A $50,000 coffee shop with an $11,000 espresso maker is never going to serve as a replacement for a real library with a real librarian or two.
It's very obvious that these so-called educators have narrowed down the definition of education to include only "job readiness" and "hireability" and have completely forgotten the importance of breadth, exposure, and serendipity in exposure to literature, history, and, most importantly, VALUES. That last is exactly what these guys lack. I would not send my children to such a school.
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Date: 2009-09-04 07:49 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-09-04 07:58 pm (UTC)A highly specialized school, such as a law school, can get by today without a large print library. A generalized school, such as a college, university, or secondary school, though... This is utter stupidity, it really is. What these idiotic administrators are saying is that any book older than 20 years, or written in a language other than English, is "irrelevant" and not needed. Any new book from a small publisher is "irrelevant" and not needed. Any book not carried by Amazon is "irrelevant" and not needed. It's a funny sort of censorship, imposed entirely on an economic basis. And that's why I equate it with the medieval approach to literature and literacy.
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Date: 2009-09-04 08:11 pm (UTC)I guess it's all a matter of timing. Whether it is *yet* time to dispense with hardcopy books I'm somewhat unsure. But believe me that time is not far off. I tell people on the courses I give that the half-life of the course-content is typically 18 months (and no this is not a cynical way to secure repeat-business from them in 18 months time).
To be honest, these days I rarely refer to my collection of traditional dead-tree-edition books - mainly because they're all rather old [believe me, a five-year-old biochemistry pharmacology or legal textbook is not only amusing, it's positively *dangerous*].
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Date: 2009-09-04 08:19 pm (UTC)Technical education, or specialized fields such as law, have now moved into the range where I agree, they can be managed largely without printed matter.
A world in which education no longer includes an adequate exposure to the humanities, however, is going to be a cold, nasty, and brutish world indeed. I don't want to live in it, nor do I want to contribute to its development.
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Date: 2009-09-04 09:27 pm (UTC)This is beyond ridiculous. In fact, it's fast approaching tragic, and I mean tragic in the no-nonsense, dynasty-collapsing, old-school Greek sense of the word. I can't even begin to describe how patently idiotic this is. I mean, what is this? What is this rubbish?
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Date: 2009-09-04 09:50 pm (UTC)Over the last year or two I've watched a struggling nearby college, one that has been in operation for over a century, as it systematically pillaged its library. They sold off the rare books first because they needed money. Then the reference books (because it's all on the internet, you know.) Eventually they were selling off the furniture and the artwork that had been donated to the library by alumni over the decades. The latest? They've stopped the funds for purchasing any new library materials at all, in order to use them to improve the appearance of buildings elsewhere on campus with paint and other superficials. (Not even critical repairs like leaky roofs or the potholes in their pavement.)
I suspected you'd be in agreement with me on this. I'm surprised, though, at the large number of people (most of them under 30) who don't think it matters at all. This is a very bad thing in my opinion.
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Date: 2009-09-04 09:48 pm (UTC)I can not fathom, what with all the people that would happily donate books to a school library, that there should ever be cause not to have one, even if they only had a real librarian once a week.
Lastly, as an aside, books are simply something that a lot of the underprivlidged don't have access to any other way. There was a poor urban youth, 3rd grader that didn't read well, a few years ago in a school where my wife was PTA pres. One of the mothers was telling her about this kid and how a teacher caught him red handed with a book shoved in his waistband as he was trying to steal it from the library and how they simply didn't need that sort of kid in their school. The mother was hoping that they'd suspend him and make an example. My wife asked me what I'd do. I said that I'd have given the kid the book and written it off. But as that wasn't likely to fly, I'd have gotten the kid to sign out the book directly, let him have it, and then see if there wasn't a way to get him a bag of similar books to help him with his reading and to foster that interest, all the while explaining that stealing is wrong, of course.
But to tell all those kids that don't have PCs, and might not have a convienient public library, etc, that they are no longer able to have books as a resource would be a real crime. To deny them the smell of old books, the tangible feeling of someone's story or work reaching fruition, to keep them from learning how to research via paper, film or fiche vs. text, that's as annoying to me as teachers no longer teaching cursive to kids. I can only imagine how much more annoying it is for you :)
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Date: 2009-09-04 09:57 pm (UTC)What does matter to me is that the internet is ephemeral and incomplete. Sure, you can read Shakespeare off the net if you really want to, but what about Lionel Johnson? What about Gerard Manley Hopkins (not his poems, those are probably out there, but his history of Hawaii?) What about the letters of Mark Twain or Thomas Jefferson? The poems of Badger Clark or Banjo Patterson?
The sheer volume of our literary and historical heritage still is largely absent from electronic formats, and even if someone values it enough to convert it all (like Project Gutenberg) we won't be seeing even half of it there for many years yet.
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Date: 2009-09-04 11:32 pm (UTC)Not to mention that, if the electricity goes out, a digital book isn't even good for a paperweight.
That's not to discount the sensual physicality of the books, not in the least. I'm trying, in my head, to play devil's advocate, just to understand the issue. In a world where the intricacies of Mozart's or Bach's composition are becoming less appreciated, or where sporting achievements unaided by chemical supplements are no longer valued, getting young people—any people (that Boston headmaster ain't that young)—to appreciate the sight and smell and feel of a roomful of books might be a Sisyphean task. As long as we have our libraries for our own use, is it just as well to leave the modern world to its follies? ... gawd that sounds pessimistic.
I'm just reminded of part of the PBS commercial for the Ken Burns National Parks: America's Best Idea program, where the narrator (think it's still author Nevada Barr, here) tells of a tourist who comes up to the Yosemite park ranger and asks "I only have an hour to see Yosemite... if you had an hour, what would you do?" And the ranger says "If I only had an hour, I would go over there, sit on that rock, and I'd cry." I'm not the biggest library patron, and I do have a horse in the race as I spend my workdays typesetting books, but in a world without physical books in libraries (or bookstores), I'd probably sit on a rock and cry a lot.
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Date: 2009-09-05 12:33 am (UTC)What a perfect response :)
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Date: 2009-09-05 02:08 am (UTC)Wasn't it the massive libary of Alexandria that was destroyed by the Romans? How much knowledge was lost there, and how far back did that set Humanity as a result? You would think that Scholars, of all people, would recognize the fallacy of their actions.
"It's all in the Internet" indeed. Who needs The Encyclopedia Britannica when you have Wikipedia? :P
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Date: 2009-09-05 02:22 am (UTC)It's a very odd set of values. These are the same people who will never consider using free software, because "you get what you pay for" but they are willing to rely on the internet as their sole source of scholarly information because "information wants to be free."
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Date: 2009-09-05 03:36 am (UTC)I think the Kindle is practical device, and a good start on a viable electronic book. If I were to do something with it in a school, to be really forward thinking, it would be to replace the textbooks. Textbooks are revised quickly, and when they are, these massive tomes go obsolete fast. Big waste of paper when they do, too.
But the biggest problem is that children are saddled down with these huge tomes, and it causes them back problems. Some school districts are supplying books on CD and giving kids laptops. The Kindle is a smaller and more durable device than a laptop.
And maybe I'd put some computer terminals in the library, but I wouldn't get rid of the books. We aren't ready for that part yet, not for a long time.
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Date: 2009-09-05 10:57 am (UTC)Textbooks are a good example of ways in which technology can be valuable, but I also question the value of making basic texts too malleable. If anyone with the right level of access (which can of course be stolen or forged) can alter or censor the contents of the textbooks, what happens? "School board dissident remotely erases chapters on evolution and sexuality from all textbooks." That's what happens. It's bad enough that this is already being done. Making it easier for those who want to Bowdlerize history and literature is never a good idea. Absolutely never.
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Date: 2009-09-05 06:48 am (UTC)Until Amazon releases a Kindle without remote deletion features, no school should rely on it instead of their library.
And personally? The school library was where I sought refuge through my school years. It was a place to hide out, to just disappear. I can't imagine a school without a library.
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Date: 2009-09-05 09:34 am (UTC)An overview of all five volumes, and a page open detailing mirages and optical illusions.
Just inside the cover is this impressive engraving of a limestone cliff. It's printed in the old manner and you can feel the texture of the letters in the paper. Feels like money, and a pleasure to hold.
A close up of the mirage engraving.
Another engraving showing parahelia, or Mock Suns.
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Date: 2009-09-05 01:55 pm (UTC)it would suck to have the internet go out. at least you can read a book when the power is out, a candle or small light goes a long way
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Date: 2009-09-05 02:57 pm (UTC)In the case of printed books, the majority of what has been published still remains only on the printed page, and is not accessible by electronic means either paid or public domain. How an institution of education can possibly say that all that mass of material is irrelevant to education and unnecessary is utterly beyond my comprehension.
There are lots of implications that I'm sure were never considered in that decision. For instance, it is not possible to borrow books from other libraries, either in schools or public libraries, unless you have a library and are willing to lend your own books in return. Many of the paid online information services, while available to non-libraries, are considerably less expensive when a bona fide library subscribes to them. It boils down to school administrators who are incompetent. They don't understand the significance or meaning of learning, education, or context. What they evidently understand is superficial imagery, appearances, and the all important profit motive.
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Date: 2009-09-05 04:01 pm (UTC)Except for the very largest (New York, Boston, Cleveland, Los Angeles) I'm afraid public libraries are no longer about real education. They are about meeting popular demand, which means lots of copies of the current best sellers and very little else. When I arrived at my present job, the library had just finished moving to a spiffy new building, with lots of light and space. Their only fully qualified librarian (whom I never met, thank god, because I'd probably have killed him) had "weeded" the collection prior to the move. To him, that meant getting rid of everything that looked old, worn, or "not shiny." Consequently, nearly all the classic literature was gone. No Jane Austen, George Eliot, Herman Melville, or even Faulkner, Hemingway, or Fitzgerald. Likewise, many of the famous award-winning children's books were gone.
I've been working for seven years to repair some of that damage, but with limited funding, it isn't easy. I'd like to say that this is a pathological situation, but alas, it is not. The other small libraries in our consortium have similar defects, as a result of similar management over the past 25 years, either by administrators with no library knowledge, or supposedly professionals who obviously had no vision of the role of the library in society and were only concerned with "image" and "cost benefit analysis."
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Date: 2009-09-05 09:08 pm (UTC)Remember that high school students are not usually asked to do original or primary source research. They write short papers in response to question prompts or a selected research topic, summarizing or evaluating things that they read. These days I'm seeing writing being de-emphasized even at the junior college level, because the teachers either don't like to grade it or feel they aren't qualified to do so. It's all in a downhill slide in my opinion. Eventually you will need a four year college degree to get a job at McDonalds in the US. Not because the demands of the job have grown that large, but because the meaning of US diplomas will have shrunken so far.
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Date: 2009-09-07 11:22 pm (UTC)I doubt a Kindle could even render them without bursting into corporate flame.
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